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Ocean of Sound: Taiko in the Womb

I think from when we first starting playing it at Buddhist temples and different venues, [we] found people coming up to us afterwards and saying, “Oh that was incredible!” And juiced. You could tell people were just energized by it and that we would be energized by playing, too. Some kind of primal thing is happening here.

I started thinking about. This was back in ’76 or so, I shared a house with two women. One of the women was pregnant and had her child. I happened to be in Japan at the time. When I came back from Japan, she had had her child. She had somehow—somebody gave her, or she had found—this album, 33 1/3 album, Dr. Muraoka’s “Sounds from the Womb.” One whole side of this album, the 33 1/3 record, was recorded sounds of the womb. Ba-doom, thumb, eghhh, scweee, scweee, scweee… You know, all of these incredible thumping and gurgling and gooojin, gooojin kind of sounds that for nine months as babies, we’re exposed to. Then the written thing says then you’re born into this world and all of a sudden, it’s quiet, right? In the hospital room or whatever. People step lightly around babies, right? There might be a sudden bedpan falling—kgnnn. And then the baby’s going to freak out, right? So as embryos, as these neonatal form kind of thing, we are exposed to this ocean of sound. And maybe, when we hear Taiko, we go back to that.

There are stories in Japan, too, of babies falling asleep with this big taiko going off. What is that? That’s a interesting connection. But I think it has to do with that sound environment that we’re in when we’re children. We joke about the fact that Masato, when he was a baby, when was in Jeanne’s womb, was exposed to Taiko. Yeah, yeah. But in a way, all of us are exposed to Taiko, or something like Taiko. That energy, that juice that happens inside of the womb is related to the sound of Taiko. Theory. That’s the Moon Man theory.


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Date: December 10, 2004

Location: California, US

Interviewer: Art Hansen, Sojin Kim

Contributed by: Watase Media Arts Center, Japanese American National Museum

Interviewee Bio

George Abe (b. 1944), renowned taiko and flute performer, was born at Manzanar concentration camp. He was one year old when his family relocated to Los Angeles, California. His mother was kibei, born in the city of Orange, California, moved to Japan when she was about nine years old, and returned to Los Angeles at about 26 years of age. His father was an Issei.

George grew up among artists and musicians, often attending biwa (lute) recitals with his mother. He played multiple instruments in his school band, including the clarinet, saxophone and oboe. As an adult, George remained fascinated with music, and learned to play the shakuhachi and fue, traditional Japanese flute-like instruments.

George was a founding member of Kinnara Taiko, a taiko group based at Senshin Buddhist Temple in Los Angeles, and remains associated with them today. Kinnara Taiko was one of the first taiko groups to form in North America, second only to Sensei Seichi Tanaka’s San Francisco Taiko Dojo. George believes in the influential power of art and the energizing effects of taiko. He uses his art to bring cultural, spiritual and community awareness to others. (December 10, 2004)

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Role as an artist

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Changing the taiko rhythm from Japanese to Afro-Cuban

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Friction between Sensei and Kinnara in defining taiko

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American influences on Japanese taiko

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Appreciating Kinnara Taiko's approach to taiko

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A Japanese American gardening dance

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Taiko is a reflection of where you live

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Playing traditional gagaku while creating an identity

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Feeling empowered by taiko

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Taiko as self-expression

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Diverse membership in San Jose Taiko

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Bringing Japanese American taiko to Japan

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A “principally-based” taiko group in England creating a global taiko community

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Developing an original kata

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Introducing Taiko in Vancouver

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