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Influencing Japan

The idea of making Taiko, I think, comes out of the fact that, for one, we can’t afford Taiko, but also that—I saw in junior high school and high school going to Manual Arts and Fochet(?)—that people were making their own conga drums. So what’s different? We could make it. I think—I kind of make jokes about it—it has to do with this kind of Yankee ingenuity kind of thing. We have that, too, as Americans. We have this thing, “If there’s a will, there’s a way.” If we want to do it, we can come up with a way to do it.

I don’t think the wine barrel taiko would have ever been invented in Japan, for example, because I think people in Japan are stuck with “Taiko is this.” They have a definition that is set. Well, we have a definition, yeah, but we’re also a lot looser about it. We give ourselves permission to do things.

I think the early masters and players of shakuhachi made their own shakuhachi. But today, most people will go to a maker to get it. Although, I think there’s a slight craft movement in Japan beginning that people can go to stores now and get a blank and learn how to make their own shakuhachi. But I don’t think it’s that popular. But even that, I think it’s almost this thing of it becomes popular in America, so it becomes popular in Japan, like the woodblock print thing. It’s not recognized until it becomes popular outside of Japan. Then Japanese say, “Oh this is far out.”


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Date: December 10, 2004

Location: California, US

Interviewer: Art Hansen, Sojin Kim

Contributed by: Watase Media Arts Center, Japanese American National Museum

Interviewee Bio

George Abe (b. 1944), renowned taiko and flute performer, was born at Manzanar concentration camp. He was one year old when his family relocated to Los Angeles, California. His mother was kibei, born in the city of Orange, California, moved to Japan when she was about nine years old, and returned to Los Angeles at about 26 years of age. His father was an Issei.

George grew up among artists and musicians, often attending biwa (lute) recitals with his mother. He played multiple instruments in his school band, including the clarinet, saxophone and oboe. As an adult, George remained fascinated with music, and learned to play the shakuhachi and fue, traditional Japanese flute-like instruments.

George was a founding member of Kinnara Taiko, a taiko group based at Senshin Buddhist Temple in Los Angeles, and remains associated with them today. Kinnara Taiko was one of the first taiko groups to form in North America, second only to Sensei Seichi Tanaka’s San Francisco Taiko Dojo. George believes in the influential power of art and the energizing effects of taiko. He uses his art to bring cultural, spiritual and community awareness to others. (December 10, 2004)

Tanaka,Seiichi

Lack of taiko at Cherry Blossom Festival

(b.1943) Shin-issei grand master of taiko; founded San Francisco Taiko Dojo in 1968.

Tanaka,Seiichi

Reasons for starting taiko in America

(b.1943) Shin-issei grand master of taiko; founded San Francisco Taiko Dojo in 1968.

Tanaka,Seiichi

Meeting Kinnara Taiko

(b.1943) Shin-issei grand master of taiko; founded San Francisco Taiko Dojo in 1968.

Tanaka,Seiichi

Happi coats in taiko

(b.1943) Shin-issei grand master of taiko; founded San Francisco Taiko Dojo in 1968.

Tanaka,Seiichi

Tire Dojo

(b.1943) Shin-issei grand master of taiko; founded San Francisco Taiko Dojo in 1968.

Tanaka,Seiichi

Traditional taiko style

(b.1943) Shin-issei grand master of taiko; founded San Francisco Taiko Dojo in 1968.

Tanaka,Seiichi

Dedicated to the frontier spirits

(b.1943) Shin-issei grand master of taiko; founded San Francisco Taiko Dojo in 1968.

Tanaka,Seiichi

Japanese musical education

(b.1943) Shin-issei grand master of taiko; founded San Francisco Taiko Dojo in 1968.

Tanaka,Seiichi

Differences between American and Japanese taiko

(b.1943) Shin-issei grand master of taiko; founded San Francisco Taiko Dojo in 1968.

Tanaka,Seiichi

Dream of "taiko" in the English dictionary

(b.1943) Shin-issei grand master of taiko; founded San Francisco Taiko Dojo in 1968.

Kodani,Mas

Changing the taiko rhythm from Japanese to Afro-Cuban

Senshin Buddhist Temple minister and co-founder of Kinnara Taiko.

Kodani,Mas

Friction between Sensei and Kinnara in defining taiko

Senshin Buddhist Temple minister and co-founder of Kinnara Taiko.

Kodani,Mas

American influences on Japanese taiko

Senshin Buddhist Temple minister and co-founder of Kinnara Taiko.

Kodani,Mas

Appreciating Kinnara Taiko's approach to taiko

Senshin Buddhist Temple minister and co-founder of Kinnara Taiko.

Kodani,Mas

A Japanese American gardening dance

Senshin Buddhist Temple minister and co-founder of Kinnara Taiko.